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PWM Output - Doesn't Work with Low Current Load

ksilovich 2 years ago in Master modules / MC4x updated 2 years ago 2

I am trying to us a PWM HS Output on an MC4x to drive a signal needed for a PWM fan.  I will get an open load when I try to drive it directly, and even with disabling the open load check it still will not work. The output just stays at 12v.   

If I add a 1k resistor from the PWM output to ground, everything works as it should.   But now the issue I have is with no power to the MC4x,  I have some leakage voltage in the range of 50ma which will draw the battery down. 

Is this a software or hardware issue that will not allow me to use this PWM output to drive this fan directly??

My work around is using a relay to make and brake the resistor to ground when the MC4x is powered.  But this is not a great solution, and would like to see if this is just a software issue that could be fixed.  

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MC4x parallel HS output usage

Chris Litwin 3 years ago in Master modules / MC4x updated by Gustav Widén (System support) 3 years ago 5

When an MC4x DOUT HS is wired in parallel, are you able to drive a single output as long as the over current limit is not met? What I driving at is activating both outputs initially, and deactivating one later.

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MC4x DOUT HS or PWM HS Over current threshold

Chris Litwin 3 years ago in Master modules / MC4x updated 3 years ago 2

What is the current level that triggers over current diagnostics when HS outputs are used in parallel?

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MC43FS VRef+ no output

hongxiang yu 3 years ago in Master modules / MC4x updated by Gustav Widén (System support) 3 years ago 1

Have any idea what is problem cause VRef+ (C1:7) no 5V output.  I can comfirm the PIN and controller are ok after i made test on bench.

What is problem cause 5V PIN stop output. possible CAN wrong or Any PINs short to ground ? No error informs why VRef do not output now

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4-20mA convert to V input on MC43 using 250ohm resistor

Kevin 3 years ago in Master modules / MC4x updated by anonymous 3 years ago 2

When using a high precision 250 or 120ohm resistor to allow IQAN to measure the signal from a current loop, do I need to connect Vref -VE for ground reference?

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Any technical reason for using both +BATT pins on MC43?

Kevin 3 years ago in Master modules / MC4x updated by Gustav Widén (System support) 3 years ago 1

We have specified an MC43 over the lesser modules in the range because of the additional inputs we need to monitor in the controller. We are not using any outputs on the module therefore current draw is minimal.

Is the only reason there is a second power supply pin (+BATT) to drive the additional outputs that can be configured on the MC43? Because we are not using any outputs (therefore current draw is hardly anything) can we connect only one of the +BATT pin to the supply, is there any technical reason why this cannot be done? I don't have a module to hand but I assume they are internally connected? is there a current limit on the module outputs if we only connect one pin?

I have had a look through the manual, the diagram on page 58 suggests we need to connect both pins on MC43 module only.

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Reading value of a PWM valve with a PWMIN

Andy Pauly 3 years ago in Master modules / MC4x updated by Gustav Widén (System support) 3 years ago 1

Hello

A stand alone system have 4x PWM proportional valves in 24VAD. I use a MC43. 

I like to ready this PWM value so that my system can give the right amount of oil from the variable pump. 

I like to use the PWMIN.  IN_33 and IN36 are for 5Volt sensors. Can I still use this INputs?? or do I need to use IN-37 and IN_38 because they are the only one rated to 24V. Can I somehow use a resistor so that I can use the 5Volt PWMIN.?? Sorry:  I am not sure even reading you documentation. 

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50 kbps Component on 250kbps J1939 Bus

Chris Litwin 3 years ago in Master modules / MC4x updated 3 years ago 2

Will connecting a 50kbps component to a 250kbps J1939 bus cause the bus to shut down. I can change the baud rate to 250kbps later, but will I even be able to send the message to change the rate? The messaging would be from a MC4x series is that matters.

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CIN

Heiko Epkens 3 years ago in Master modules / MC4x updated by Gustav Widén (System support) 3 years ago 1

Hello.  I am testing my MC41 application using a Eurtherm G-438 ( https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1658070.pdf?_ga=2.178838692.143399012.1654225772-1786236872.1616697046&_gac=1.2754052.1650585147.EAIaIQobChMIlfWcop-m9wIVTsLCBB0Krwa-EAYYBiABEgKL5PD_BwE)  signal conditioner to generate a 0-20 mA to simulate one of my inputs.  The MC41 is latching onto a high error and I am puzzled as to why.  I checked the output of the unit and it is in the proper range.  I made a work around using a trim-pot but I want to be sure that I won't have problems when the controller is connected to its real current source.  I noticed that the voltage compliance of the signal conditioner is 12 VDC max whereas my controller is receiving 28 VDC power currently.  Could this be the error?

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Connector packed with di-electric grease

Gustav Widén (System support) 3 years ago in Master modules / MC4x updated by Pierre Fagrell 3 years ago 1

Got this photo from a colleague who works in after-sales, an MC41 connector packed with di-electric grease.

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The Molex MX123 is a sealed connector when properly assembled, so adding di-electric grease does nothing to improve protection against water and dust. Instead, it can only cause problems by getting in the way for the pins and prevent contact. 


I do not know how widespread this problem is. 

Do you guys also have problems with people putting grease inside the connectors?